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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It took me awhile to figure that out but for example: a number 2-8-0 refers to the wheels on the locomotive.  The 2 means the front of the engine has 2 wheels, one each side while the large middle wheels are 4 on each side or 8. And the zero means there are no wheels under the cab at the back of the engine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me awhile to figure that out but for example: a number 2-8-0 refers to the wheels on the locomotive.  The 2 means the front of the engine has 2 wheels, one each side while the large middle wheels are 4 on each side or 8. And the zero means there are no wheels under the cab at the back of the engine.</p>
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		By: BroadwayPhil		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This number refers to the locomotive&#039;s wheel arrangement.  If it is all numbers, the engine is a steam locomotive.  The first number will be the number of wheels on the leading or &quot;pilot&quot; truck, if any (or 0 if it has none); the last number is the number of wheels on the trailing truck (again, 0 if it has none). The middle number or pair of numbers is the number of driving wheels, that is, the wheels actually powered by the action of the pistons; these are connected by side rods so they work together.  Tender wheels are not counted unless they are actually driving wheels, which would be an unusual situation; tender &quot;boosters&quot; are not considered driving wheels.  If a &quot;T&quot; follows the numbers, then it is a &quot;tank&quot; engine, which has no tender.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is the &quot;Whyte&quot; system of classification.  (In Europe, particularly France, axles are counted instead of wheels, but European models intended for sale in the U.S. will use the Whyte system.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A &quot;2-8-0&quot;, then, has a pilot truck with two wheels, eight driving wheels and no trailing truck.  This type is called a &quot;Consolidation&quot; or occasionally a &quot;Pershing&quot; (this refers to certain groups of Consolidations that were shipped to France during World War I and later given to the French).  A 2-8-8-4 has a pilot truck of two wheels, two sets of eight driving wheels each, and a four-wheel trailig truck.  This is a &quot;Yellowstone,&quot; an articulated engine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are a few exceptions, notably geared locomotives and Beyer-Garratts, but I won&#039;t get into that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If instead of numbers there are letters, or both letters and numbers, the engine is either a diesel or an electric.  The letters designate powered axles, so a typical EMD diesel with four powered axles in two trucks would be a B-B.  Unpowered axles receive numbers, so an A1A truck means there are two powered axles separated by an unpowered axle.  The Fairbanks Morse passenger C-liner, for instance, had a B-A1A arrangement.  (Don&#039;t confuse this with sets of diesel cab units, which usually do not use hyphens between the letters).  Designations like Bo-Bo or Co-Co are European, and are the same as B-B and C-C.  Unpowered leading and trailing trucks are handled the same way, with the number of axles counted, as for instance 2-C+C-2.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Generally, the more driving wheels an engine has the more powerful it is, and for steam locomotives, the more wheels in the trailing truck, the larger the firebox.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is no &quot;best&quot; wheel arrangement; the railroad&#039;s own operating requirements determined that, and also wheel arrangements evolved over time.  For much of the 19th century the 4-4-0 was so common that it was known variously as the &quot;American&quot; or &quot;American Standard&quot;, sometimes just &quot;Standard&quot; (also &quot;Eight Wheeler&quot;).  It was a dual-service engine, hauling both passendgers and freight.  Later the 4-6-0 (Ten Wheeler), 2-6-0 (Mogul) and 2-8-0 also saw much dual service.  As fireboxes grew larger, the 2-8-2 (Mikado) was introduced: it became a standard freight engine all over the country.  The 4-4-2 (Atlantic) and 4-6-2 (Pacific), usually equipped with large driving wheels, were common passenger engines, especially the latter.  Engines with four-wheel trailing trucks, to support still larger fireboxes, the 2-8-4 (Berkshire), 4-6-4 (Hudson) and 4-8-4 (Northern and other names) were introduced shortly before diesels and were again fast, dual-purpose engines.  The articulated types (2-6-6-2, 2-8-8-2, etc.) hauled long, heavy freight trains for the most part, though some also were used in passenger service: Southern Pacific 4-8-8-2 cab-forwards, for instance, were dual-service.  Engines with ten or twelve driving wheels were generally used for freight.  Except in the earliest years (before the Civil War), engines without either pilot or trailing trucks were switchers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are numerous introductory books on railroads and model railroading that go into more detail on these matters.  If you are modeling a particular railroad, be aware that not every type was used by a railroad.  The Kansas City Southern, for instance, had many Consolidations but no Mikados.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For your own modeling, if your layout is small, with tighter curves, pick smaller engines with fewer driving wheels (shorter wheelbases, you see) to avoid excessive overhang and even derailments.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope this has been of some help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This number refers to the locomotive&#8217;s wheel arrangement.  If it is all numbers, the engine is a steam locomotive.  The first number will be the number of wheels on the leading or &#8220;pilot&#8221; truck, if any (or 0 if it has none); the last number is the number of wheels on the trailing truck (again, 0 if it has none). The middle number or pair of numbers is the number of driving wheels, that is, the wheels actually powered by the action of the pistons; these are connected by side rods so they work together.  Tender wheels are not counted unless they are actually driving wheels, which would be an unusual situation; tender &#8220;boosters&#8221; are not considered driving wheels.  If a &#8220;T&#8221; follows the numbers, then it is a &#8220;tank&#8221; engine, which has no tender.</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;Whyte&#8221; system of classification.  (In Europe, particularly France, axles are counted instead of wheels, but European models intended for sale in the U.S. will use the Whyte system.)</p>
<p>A &#8220;2-8-0&#8221;, then, has a pilot truck with two wheels, eight driving wheels and no trailing truck.  This type is called a &#8220;Consolidation&#8221; or occasionally a &#8220;Pershing&#8221; (this refers to certain groups of Consolidations that were shipped to France during World War I and later given to the French).  A 2-8-8-4 has a pilot truck of two wheels, two sets of eight driving wheels each, and a four-wheel trailig truck.  This is a &#8220;Yellowstone,&#8221; an articulated engine.</p>
<p>There are a few exceptions, notably geared locomotives and Beyer-Garratts, but I won&#8217;t get into that.</p>
<p>If instead of numbers there are letters, or both letters and numbers, the engine is either a diesel or an electric.  The letters designate powered axles, so a typical EMD diesel with four powered axles in two trucks would be a B-B.  Unpowered axles receive numbers, so an A1A truck means there are two powered axles separated by an unpowered axle.  The Fairbanks Morse passenger C-liner, for instance, had a B-A1A arrangement.  (Don&#8217;t confuse this with sets of diesel cab units, which usually do not use hyphens between the letters).  Designations like Bo-Bo or Co-Co are European, and are the same as B-B and C-C.  Unpowered leading and trailing trucks are handled the same way, with the number of axles counted, as for instance 2-C+C-2.</p>
<p>Generally, the more driving wheels an engine has the more powerful it is, and for steam locomotives, the more wheels in the trailing truck, the larger the firebox.</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;best&#8221; wheel arrangement; the railroad&#8217;s own operating requirements determined that, and also wheel arrangements evolved over time.  For much of the 19th century the 4-4-0 was so common that it was known variously as the &#8220;American&#8221; or &#8220;American Standard&#8221;, sometimes just &#8220;Standard&#8221; (also &#8220;Eight Wheeler&#8221;).  It was a dual-service engine, hauling both passendgers and freight.  Later the 4-6-0 (Ten Wheeler), 2-6-0 (Mogul) and 2-8-0 also saw much dual service.  As fireboxes grew larger, the 2-8-2 (Mikado) was introduced: it became a standard freight engine all over the country.  The 4-4-2 (Atlantic) and 4-6-2 (Pacific), usually equipped with large driving wheels, were common passenger engines, especially the latter.  Engines with four-wheel trailing trucks, to support still larger fireboxes, the 2-8-4 (Berkshire), 4-6-4 (Hudson) and 4-8-4 (Northern and other names) were introduced shortly before diesels and were again fast, dual-purpose engines.  The articulated types (2-6-6-2, 2-8-8-2, etc.) hauled long, heavy freight trains for the most part, though some also were used in passenger service: Southern Pacific 4-8-8-2 cab-forwards, for instance, were dual-service.  Engines with ten or twelve driving wheels were generally used for freight.  Except in the earliest years (before the Civil War), engines without either pilot or trailing trucks were switchers.</p>
<p>There are numerous introductory books on railroads and model railroading that go into more detail on these matters.  If you are modeling a particular railroad, be aware that not every type was used by a railroad.  The Kansas City Southern, for instance, had many Consolidations but no Mikados.</p>
<p>For your own modeling, if your layout is small, with tighter curves, pick smaller engines with fewer driving wheels (shorter wheelbases, you see) to avoid excessive overhang and even derailments.</p>
<p>I hope this has been of some help.</p>
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