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		By: Hervey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David has it correct. You don&#039;t change the polarity of the reversing loop while the train is in it. You change the polarity of the block the train is moving into when it leaves the reversing loop while the train is in the loop. If you get it correct the train never stops and continues on at the same speed. 
That is the theory, unfortunately it is just a matter of time until the DPDT switch doesn&#039;t get thrown and everything stops as you will get a short coming out of the reversing loop.

Circuitron has an auto reverser (AR-1) that can be used on DC systems only. I have no experience with it but for those still using DC it may be the solution you are looking for.

DCC has a number of options for dealing with this issue. The basic method is the same as for DC (DPDT switch). There are also electronic solutions of which the AR1 from Digitrax is one. This works adequately in most cases but is &quot;old&quot; technology. They use a mechanical relay to switch polarity. It works but it is slow and DCC is very sensitive to shorts. To use an AR1 on a DCC system you generally have to reduce the speed which the system or breakers shut down if there is a short.

This allows you to go through the reversing loop and come out the other side without your DCC system shutting down. You may here a click as the polarity is thrown if you are running quiet. Unfortunately all your decoders are experiencing the short and overtime the electronics of the decoders will not react well to this shorting. The better route to go is with a solid state auto reverser, they will sense a short and flip the polarity quicker than the DCC system will sense the short and reduce the risk of damage to your other decoders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David has it correct. You don&#8217;t change the polarity of the reversing loop while the train is in it. You change the polarity of the block the train is moving into when it leaves the reversing loop while the train is in the loop. If you get it correct the train never stops and continues on at the same speed.<br />
That is the theory, unfortunately it is just a matter of time until the DPDT switch doesn&#8217;t get thrown and everything stops as you will get a short coming out of the reversing loop.</p>
<p>Circuitron has an auto reverser (AR-1) that can be used on DC systems only. I have no experience with it but for those still using DC it may be the solution you are looking for.</p>
<p>DCC has a number of options for dealing with this issue. The basic method is the same as for DC (DPDT switch). There are also electronic solutions of which the AR1 from Digitrax is one. This works adequately in most cases but is &#8220;old&#8221; technology. They use a mechanical relay to switch polarity. It works but it is slow and DCC is very sensitive to shorts. To use an AR1 on a DCC system you generally have to reduce the speed which the system or breakers shut down if there is a short.</p>
<p>This allows you to go through the reversing loop and come out the other side without your DCC system shutting down. You may here a click as the polarity is thrown if you are running quiet. Unfortunately all your decoders are experiencing the short and overtime the electronics of the decoders will not react well to this shorting. The better route to go is with a solid state auto reverser, they will sense a short and flip the polarity quicker than the DCC system will sense the short and reduce the risk of damage to your other decoders.</p>
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		By: Craig		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks guys I&#039;ll take it all onboard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys I&#8217;ll take it all onboard.</p>
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		By: Hervey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39519&quot;&gt;Bill Suarez&lt;/a&gt;.

No Bill. Just change the polarity of the block the train will be going into when it comes out of the reversing section. No stopping of train required but you must be paying attention so that the polarity is the same when it comes out of the reversing section as to what it had at the end of the section. Sounds basic but it is just a matter of time until you forget and you have a short.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39519">Bill Suarez</a>.</p>
<p>No Bill. Just change the polarity of the block the train will be going into when it comes out of the reversing section. No stopping of train required but you must be paying attention so that the polarity is the same when it comes out of the reversing section as to what it had at the end of the section. Sounds basic but it is just a matter of time until you forget and you have a short.</p>
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		By: David Krause		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems that when the LOCO exits the main line to enter the loop and travels the loop, the main line polarity would need to be reversed just before the LOCO re-enters the main line...should work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems that when the LOCO exits the main line to enter the loop and travels the loop, the main line polarity would need to be reversed just before the LOCO re-enters the main line&#8230;should work.</p>
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		By: John Ogden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39514&quot;&gt;Frank B&lt;/a&gt;.

Won’t the Loco go into reverse if you switch polarity while it’s still moving!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39514">Frank B</a>.</p>
<p>Won’t the Loco go into reverse if you switch polarity while it’s still moving!</p>
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		By: Bill Suarez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39514&quot;&gt;Frank B&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, but while the train is in the loop you need to simultaneously through the DPDT AND the reverse switch on the power source to then align the rail polarity for the train to exit the loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.model-train-help.com/2020/07/polarity-reverse-loops.html#comment-39514">Frank B</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, but while the train is in the loop you need to simultaneously through the DPDT AND the reverse switch on the power source to then align the rail polarity for the train to exit the loop.</p>
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		By: Frank B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Think again on DC !   If the loop is isolated both ends, there is no need to stop the train, just flick your switch to change polarity on the main line while the train is progressing round the loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think again on DC !   If the loop is isolated both ends, there is no need to stop the train, just flick your switch to change polarity on the main line while the train is progressing round the loop.</p>
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		By: Craig		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 03:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin.... agree digitrax AR1 is popular]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin&#8230;. agree digitrax AR1 is popular</p>
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		By: Kevin Ching		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 02:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On DCC i use a digitrax AR1 they are the best and most reliable]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On DCC i use a digitrax AR1 they are the best and most reliable</p>
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